Honorary Blogger Marshall Thornton: I Am Not A Romance Writer… + Giveaway!


I Am Not A Romance Writer…

by Marshall Thornton

I feel like I’m at a twelve-step meeting. “Hello, my name is Marshall. And I am not a romance writer.” Instead of saying, “Hello Marshall” you’re probably saying, “Huh?” or if your language is more colorful, “What the fuck?” I get your confusion. First of all, this is an m/m romance blog. Second, I publish with an m/m romance publisher. And third, as you may already know, I market to the m/m romance audience.

So, how did I end up here? Well, like many other sites, The Blogger Girls have been gracious enough to review my books and have gone the extra mile and asked me to blog. How did I get my not-m/m romance books published with an m/m romance publisher? MLR Press publishes a lot of m/m romance but they also publish gay fiction and have a special interest in gay mystery. Why do I market my books to m/m romance readers? Like any audience the m/m romance audience is not monolithic. Certainly, some readers exclusively read m/m romance, while others like to mix it up with other genres; sometimes gay mysteries.

What I am is a gay fiction writer, though I am also a mystery writer – with or without the gay in front of it – and occasionally a gay romantic comedy writer. (Romantic comedy and romance are distinctly different genres but that’s a blog of a different color.) After reading that, some of you may have gone back to “huh?” and “WTF?” Again, I get your confusion. A lot of writers and readers in the m/m romance community use the terms gay fiction and m/m synonymously. I don’t believe that to be true.

A friend of mine recently asked me “Why are some books called romance novels and others aren’t? Don’t most books have romance in them?” I think the explanation I gave is a pretty good one, I replied, “In a romance novel, whatever the main character(s) central problem is it is solved by love. In other genres, the main character(s) problem is solved by other means and love is a kind of trophy granted for solving the problem.”

This explanation applies to the central differences between m/m and gay fiction. In m/m romance the HEA has to be a committed relationship between two men (I hesitate to say gay men because the characters don’t always begin that way and an HEA with one of the men identified as bi is possible.) In gay fiction, an HEA is optional. And, if there is an HEA it very likely has to do with self-acceptance, self-awareness or an increase in self-esteem. Sometimes within a relationship and sometimes not.

Additionally, there are many sub-rules to the m/m romance genre. Rules which I know about because readers incorrectly identify my work is m/m and then complain that I don’t follow the rules.

The biggest rule I break is that I use the HEA common to all mysteries. The crime is solved. In a mystery that is the HEA. Sometimes private investigator Nick Nowak’s life ends on an up note and sometimes it ends on a down note. It really depends on what’s going on in his life. But the crime is always solved.

Another rule I break is that Nick is a guy who has a lot of sex particularly in the early books. He has recreational sex, anonymous sex, friendly sex, angry sex, break-up sex, good sex, bad sex, mournful sex, loving sex, vengeful sex, and, finally, at the end of Boystown 6, safe sex (FYI: safe sex did not exist before 1983). From what I’ve seen in m/m promiscuous characters secretly want a boyfriend despite all the hot sex they’re having or they’re the bad guy or…both.

And, speaking of sex, not a lot of the sex in the books is emotional. That’s another rule I break. Sex needs to be emotional in m/m romance. Nick has a tendency to act like a gay James Bond or a gay Mike Hammer. Some of this is my having fun with those traditionally heterosexual archetypes and some of it has to do with the period.

The books, so far, cover the period between 1979 and 1984. This was a very sexually active period in the gay community. To truly understand that you have to remember that same-sex relationships were still criminal in the majority of the country (as they were until 2003). Illinois repealed these laws in 1961, but the population of Chicago was composed of many transplants from places with oppressive sodomy laws. The heightened sexuality of the 1970s and early 1980s was, in large part, a reaction to the gradual legalization of gay sex. Since it was legal to have sex in places like San Francisco, New York and Chicago, guys wanted to have it. They were asserting their newly granted rights and sex was in the air.

Another important way that I break the rules of m/m romance is Nick’s relationship to monogamy. He was monogamous in his first relationship but in his relationship with Bert Harker he is not. The two of them talk about it rarely but Harker knows what Nick is up to and doesn’t make any moves to stop him. There are some very good reasons for their relationship to be set up that way but you’re going to have to read the books to find out.

I know that open relationships sometimes happen in m/m romance but I’m fairly certain that if a couple or a character begin a book in an open relationship it’s closed by the end of the book. (I know there’s ménage romance out there but I don’t know anything about the rules for that genre.)

Okay, so after looking back over all the ways I break the rules of m/m romance I have to say that if that were what I was trying to do that I’d really suck at it. No, I’m mainly a mystery writer. The Boystown series is much more romantic than a lot of mysteries, even gay mysteries. One reader went so far as to call it “the most romantic non-romance she’d very read.”  As her comment demonstrates, romantic is a quality that a book might have while romance is a structural form.

I guess you could call me a romantic writer, but not a romance writer.


About Boystown 6: From the Ashes

3The most unlikely person in the world asks Private Investigator Nick Nowak to investigate the un-suspicious death of a priest. It’s winter 1984, Private Investigator Nick Nowak has allowed his life to fall to pieces: he’s stopped taking cases, lost his apartment and works as a bartender at a sleazy bar tucked under the El. All he wants to do is lick his wounds after the death of his lover, Detective Bert Harker. But, when the least likely person in the world shows up and asks him to take a new case he finds himself investigating the very un-suspicious heart attack death of a priest. Nick is convinced he’s wasting his time until the clues begin to add up to.

Available at: MLR Press, Amazon and Barnes & Noble


About Boystowm Mystery Series

The Boystown Mystery series follows the cases of former-police officer turned private investigator Nick Nowak. Set in Chicago during the early 1980s, Nowak is haunted by his abrupt departure from the CPD and the end of his relationship with librarian Daniel Laverty. He moves through a series of casual relationships until he meets homicide detective Bert Harker with whom he begins a tentative relationship.

Find the Boystown Mystery series on Amazon or Audible.


About Marshall Thornton

Two-time Lambda Award finalist, Marshall Thornton is best known for the six books of theBoystown mystery series. Set in the ‘80s, the series follows Chicago P.I. Nick Nowak. Other books include My Favorite Uncle, The Ghost Slept Over and the erotic comedy The Perils of Praline. Marshall received an MFA in screenwriting from UCLA, and a BA in creative writing from CSULB. He has published stories in The James White Review and Frontier Magazine.

Find out more about Marshall on his Website or Facebook.

For the giveaway I can do either three audiobooks of Boystown 6 which will be available around September 20th or three paperbacks for Boystown 6: From the Ashes whichever you think is better.


Marshall has graciously offered up THREE paperback copies of Boystown 6: From the Ashes!! The giveaway starts now and ends September 16, 2014 at 11:59 p.m. To enter, just click the link below!

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Please be aware that the only way to enter the giveaway is to click the Rafflecopter link above. Any comments on this post will not count towards entering the giveaway, except to verify your Rafflecopter entry.

Don’t forget to check out Susan65’s review of Boystown 6: From the Ashes to see what they thought of it!

Good luck!

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13 thoughts on “Honorary Blogger Marshall Thornton: I Am Not A Romance Writer… + Giveaway!

  1. Oh this should be good thanks for the post and the giveaway.

  2. justjenbo

    Great post, Marshall! Totally covers any question I had about the book. I’m looking foward to reading more. 🙂

  3. Debra E

    Wonderful post. I’m halfway through the series and looking forward to the rest of it, romance or not.

  4. Sounds like a very good series. Thank you for the chance.

  5. DebraG

    Thank so much for finding me another great book.

  6. Rod B

    The book sounds great. Thanks for the giveaway!

  7. Sarina Feuerbach

    Sounds like an interesting series; thanks for the giveaway!

  8. Barbra

    I’ve always enjoyed gay mysteries (well, once I was aware of them) and also gay romantic comedy. I have a 2 book set of gay romantic comedy books that I re-read all the time because they never get old. I laugh as much now as I did the first time through. Sometimes all the angst in romance gets to be too much.

  9. Valerie

    Thank you for the post and the chance to win. I just finished Boystown 3 on audio. I will be starting the next one tomorrow! 🙂

  10. Sounds wonderful. Thank you for the giveaway!

  11. I read quite a varied genre of books, including gay & MM books, and I think that there are quite a few dark, even bittersweet, tales that fall under the MM romantic umbrella. I do like a bit of angst in my reading and a love that has to be worked for and some of my favourite books have included the darker sadder aspects, even though they made me feel sad.

    Thank you for a chance to win a copy of your book, as I love mysteries and detective stories.

  12. Ardent Ereader

    I love the Nick Nowak series! Thanks for the giveaway

  13. bn100

    This sounds interesting

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